Comments on: Twilio Signal 2019 and the future of the programmable enterprise https://bloggeek.me/twilio-signal-2019-and-the-future-of-the-programmable-enterprise/ The leading authority on WebRTC Sat, 02 Jul 2022 16:20:02 +0000 hourly 1 By: Raghvendra Kumar https://bloggeek.me/twilio-signal-2019-and-the-future-of-the-programmable-enterprise/#comment-119787 Thu, 05 Sep 2019 13:07:29 +0000 http://bloggeek.me/?p=13477#comment-119787 It’s a really long blog unlike your previous ones which are focused and often small which brings me to the question if it’s really key notes or transcript of the entire session (did you use any twillio api to generate the transcript :p ? will read it later

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By: Tsahi Levent-Levi https://bloggeek.me/twilio-signal-2019-and-the-future-of-the-programmable-enterprise/#comment-119774 Fri, 30 Aug 2019 09:15:04 +0000 http://bloggeek.me/?p=13477#comment-119774 In reply to T. Benjamin.

Sorry if I came out a bit strong – that wasn’t the intent.

Please – do vent. Here. All the time.

The challenge with what you’re looking for is the business model for the person(s) building that. For the most part, there has not been any good one that I’ve seen so far 🙁

While I share that desire, I believe that today it isn’t really feasible due to market forces.

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By: T. Benjamin https://bloggeek.me/twilio-signal-2019-and-the-future-of-the-programmable-enterprise/#comment-119773 Fri, 30 Aug 2019 04:27:18 +0000 http://bloggeek.me/?p=13477#comment-119773 Tsashi,

I’m just venting… And certainly not at you or the conference.

Venting on a higher level…

As to point—specifically—is more about the final ownership or access to my data, and not so much about businesses offering services.

But just as you blog about what interests you, I was merely echo’ing what many of us early adopters were pitched.

Which was more in line with my first post… Taking back control of our own data, communications, finances, contracts, etc… from prying eyes and bad actors.

And sadly, I see the same pattern… Awesome start-ups…. Awesome product…. Sells out to ABC Co.

In short, not so much about the propagation of WebRTC as a standard (anymore), but about real, true, verifiable ownership of my data.

And it would thrill me to see a kind of “Asterisk everything server” wrapped up in an Electron executable, easier to use than WhatsApp…

Didn’t mean to stir up your comment thread. Just wishing I saw more GNU-style, “free as in speech” kind of spirit in these conferences…

T.

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By: Tsahi Levent-Levi https://bloggeek.me/twilio-signal-2019-and-the-future-of-the-programmable-enterprise/#comment-119772 Fri, 30 Aug 2019 04:07:40 +0000 http://bloggeek.me/?p=13477#comment-119772 In reply to T. Benjamin.

T,

Not really sure how you got that impression that WebRTC didn’t NEED centralized anything.

Sessions still start the same way anything does over the internet – with a DNS lookup and an HTTP request to a signaling server. TURN still needs to be deployed.

WebRTC might enable decentralized implementations, but this was never its focus. It simply sought out to bring to the web what was always possible in VoIP – sending and receiving media in real time (and then some arbitrary data as well).

Why I don’t report these? Because they’re less in my own interest and probably because there’s less progress there as far as I can tell.

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By: T. Benjamin https://bloggeek.me/twilio-signal-2019-and-the-future-of-the-programmable-enterprise/#comment-119771 Fri, 30 Aug 2019 03:59:32 +0000 http://bloggeek.me/?p=13477#comment-119771 Maybe it’s just me, but I’m far more interested in the decentralization of WebRTC, not the fancy rollouts from big players in new spaces, trying to convince us why centralization is needed (i.e Sendgrid).

Where is GitTorrent news? Where is Web Torrent? IPFS integration? P2P legally-binding contracts? Crypto / RTC innovation?

Where is my “everything” server?

Virtualized, encrypted, and living on my own hard drive, or my own Tails Linux stick… Or my suped-ip Pi…

– You know, take back control of my email from Google.
– Take back control of my web server from Amazon.
– Take back my payments back from PayPal.
– Take back my social media from FB, Twitter
– Take back my file storage from DropBox
– Take back my code from Microsoft (GitHub)
– Take back my phone system from ATT
– Take back my graphics tools from Adobe
– Take back my OS from Apple… well… Let’s not be unrealistic here.

Maybe it’s just me, but I thought the spirit of WebRTC was that we didn’t NEED centralized anything anymore.

Cathedral and the Bazaar

My 2 cents.

— Uncle T.

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By: Tsahi Levent-Levi https://bloggeek.me/twilio-signal-2019-and-the-future-of-the-programmable-enterprise/#comment-119767 Tue, 27 Aug 2019 18:12:03 +0000 http://bloggeek.me/?p=13477#comment-119767 In reply to James Body.

I haven’t gotten to the 2nd day keynote (yet), so can’t say a lot about the IoT/SIM progress.

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By: Tsahi Levent-Levi https://bloggeek.me/twilio-signal-2019-and-the-future-of-the-programmable-enterprise/#comment-119766 Tue, 27 Aug 2019 18:11:18 +0000 http://bloggeek.me/?p=13477#comment-119766 In reply to James Body.

The number is big and impressive, but it just doesn’t indicate anything about engagement.

On the other hand, this is what all other CPaaS vendors publicize if they publicize a number.

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By: James Body https://bloggeek.me/twilio-signal-2019-and-the-future-of-the-programmable-enterprise/#comment-119765 Tue, 27 Aug 2019 14:45:56 +0000 http://bloggeek.me/?p=13477#comment-119765 Spot on analysis Tsahi!

The significance of the voice and messaging transports comes out loud and clear here – but also the growing importance of the ‘new’ modes of transmission that use social media channels rather than traditional cellular means. THe rapid uptake of these new channels can be attributed to multiple factors; lower cost, better functionality – and overall better customer responses being the most significant factors.

I am particularly interested in watching what Twilio is doing with their IoT/SIM operations; I see this as a semi-covert attempt to move into the mobile space, where, if you can get into the mobile signalling, it is possible to do some really powerful things….. The fact that there was little to report this year implies that they still have some way to go in this space – getting 3GPP / GSMA procedure based systems up and running is a hideously over-complicated and difficult task, about which very few people know how to proceed.

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By: James Body https://bloggeek.me/twilio-signal-2019-and-the-future-of-the-programmable-enterprise/#comment-119764 Tue, 27 Aug 2019 13:31:35 +0000 http://bloggeek.me/?p=13477#comment-119764 Ha! 6 million Developers – 21 of which are me…..

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