Comments on: WebRTC unbundling: the beginning of the end for WebRTC? https://bloggeek.me/webrtc-unbundling/ The leading authority on WebRTC Sat, 19 Nov 2022 10:41:22 +0000 hourly 1 By: Tsahi Levent-Levi https://bloggeek.me/webrtc-unbundling/#comment-156775 Sat, 19 Nov 2022 10:41:22 +0000 https://bloggeek.me/?p=72266#comment-156775 In reply to Mark.

It isn’t being deprecated. It is just that new technologies that are part of WebRTC get their own API surface.

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By: Mark https://bloggeek.me/webrtc-unbundling/#comment-156759 Fri, 18 Nov 2022 22:57:40 +0000 https://bloggeek.me/?p=72266#comment-156759 Webrtc is over 10 years old and mature. That's why it is getting deprecated. Got it.

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By: Philipp Hancke https://bloggeek.me/webrtc-unbundling/#comment-123134 Mon, 31 Aug 2020 18:15:48 +0000 https://bloggeek.me/?p=72266#comment-123134 In reply to Matías L..

While 1:1 remains a very important use-case it is boring. You can’t tweak and differentiate much, the game there is reliability.

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By: Matías L. https://bloggeek.me/webrtc-unbundling/#comment-123124 Sun, 30 Aug 2020 20:38:03 +0000 https://bloggeek.me/?p=72266#comment-123124 This is interesting, but all analysis they do is around big conferences. They fight how would you say vulgarly “Who has it bigger” and all new components it’s seems to go there. But currently, the small video conference one-one or maximum 4 participants is growth an example of that is CPaaS industries, whiteboards, etc., that allows creating a multimedia or data channels in a P2P connection over the browser without worrying about big infrastructure and optimization over the packets.

I completely agree with Tsahi about this changes will increase the barriers to develop applications into the “new WebRTC” also can segregate fast and short communications like a simple phone call.

Well, let’s see what could happen in the future because new use cases incoming because COVID introduced a new very big needs of society.

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By: Tsahi Levent-Levi https://bloggeek.me/webrtc-unbundling/#comment-122972 Sat, 15 Aug 2020 10:48:15 +0000 https://bloggeek.me/?p=72266#comment-122972 In reply to Carl Ford.

There is no change for Chromium. WebRTC is part of HTML5 and this isn’t going to change, so Chrome and Chromium will continue supporting it.

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By: Carl Ford https://bloggeek.me/webrtc-unbundling/#comment-122970 Sat, 15 Aug 2020 02:00:51 +0000 https://bloggeek.me/?p=72266#comment-122970 Hey Tsahi,
It’s Carl.

If Chromium still has WebRTC in it. Would it still be Chrome, but suboptimized or would it be deliberately removed?

Kind Regards,
Carl

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By: Tsahi Levent-Levi https://bloggeek.me/webrtc-unbundling/#comment-122933 Tue, 11 Aug 2020 13:02:34 +0000 https://bloggeek.me/?p=72266#comment-122933 In reply to Alex Cohn.

Alex,

Everything I portrayed is interoperable in theory as it all relies on web standards and not proprietary tech – the proprietary parts are added on top, mostly via WASM.

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By: Alex Cohn https://bloggeek.me/webrtc-unbundling/#comment-122932 Tue, 11 Aug 2020 11:52:43 +0000 https://bloggeek.me/?p=72266#comment-122932 The biggest deal about WebRTC is interop.

If unbundling can damage communication between me on mobile Chrome and the peer on MS Edge behind the call-center firewall, then it would be a bad move for the community as whole.

On the other hand, if unbundling provides more opportunities for independent vendors to come up with browser-based and/or native solutions for their challenges, this would be most welcome, and increase the market demand for us, software engineers who understand something about RTC.

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By: Tsahi Levent-Levi https://bloggeek.me/webrtc-unbundling/#comment-122930 Tue, 11 Aug 2020 05:37:03 +0000 https://bloggeek.me/?p=72266#comment-122930 In reply to Sean DuBois.

Too many questions to answer here 🙂

NetEq isn’t overhyped. I think some of it can be implemented in WASM. In such a case, why not?

I don’t think this has anything to do with reasoning behind using or not using PION. It as well as GStreamer have their place in the world (mostly in embedded and client on a server side scenarios is my guess).

Zoom started alongside WebRTC and decided not to adopt it. It worked for them. Didn’t work for others like WebEx that did… almost the same. Execution is a lot more than the specific technology being chosen.

I think the binary web is a necessity. I prefer H.323 over SIP but prefer WebRTC over both of them. Does that make any sense?

I also think the binary web will have a lot of JS around it to stitch it together and keep the higher logic. WASM is better served at speeding up certain tasks than replacing everything is my guess.

APIs are never useful without your own parts. If they were, we’d call them SaaS… a full service.

Congestion control will either be added to WebTransport or be enabled on top of it so you’ll be able to WASM your way into it. Again – my guess on where this will go.

W3C probably doesn’t look at such an eventuality. It will happen in small steps while focusing on other use cases and scenarios and then finding out that vendors adopted it for real time communications.

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By: Tsahi Levent-Levi https://bloggeek.me/webrtc-unbundling/#comment-122929 Tue, 11 Aug 2020 05:32:11 +0000 https://bloggeek.me/?p=72266#comment-122929 In reply to Dhimant Bhayani.

🙂

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