Comments on: WebRTC has no Edge in Media over Others https://bloggeek.me/webrtc-media-edge/ The leading authority on WebRTC Sat, 28 Dec 2019 15:14:52 +0000 hourly 1 By: Warren Mc https://bloggeek.me/webrtc-media-edge/#comment-117071 Tue, 05 Nov 2013 07:43:27 +0000 http://bloggeek.me/?p=3470#comment-117071 In reply to Emil Ivov.

I think the key is “comprehensive”. I find the level of true ICE and TURN support offered in pre WebRTC clients to be sub par.

This movement has envigorated the attitude towards promulgation and adoption of these standards.

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By: Emil Ivov https://bloggeek.me/webrtc-media-edge/#comment-117070 Mon, 04 Nov 2013 13:48:48 +0000 http://bloggeek.me/?p=3470#comment-117070 In reply to Warren Mc.

@Warren,

The mechanisms that WebRTC is using for NAT traversal, ICE, TURN, STUN, have all been available and used by SIP and XMPP products well before WebRTC appeared.

The only piece of NAT related work that is happening within the context of WebRTC is “Trickle ICE” and this does make NAT traversal more reliable, it just makes the negotiation faster.

@Aswath

Downloading the signaling makes you compatible with yourself … so not much of win. You get the same level of compatibility when you download and install the same client on two machines.

The one true advantage of the WebRTC *model* is ease of deployment but that is still a promise that WebRTC has to live up to given its support by “only” two major browsers (i.e. when you are deploying web RTC apps, you still need to worry about the other browsers or require your users to install stuff … as with rich clients).

There is of course a side effect to the WebRTC work which is to get the community to agree on improving, adopting and deploying a number of protocols such as bundle, trickle ice (and ICE actually), SRTP, RTCP-MUX and many others. This is of course very positive but it is not exclusive to WebRTC and web pages.

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By: Warren Mc https://bloggeek.me/webrtc-media-edge/#comment-117069 Mon, 04 Nov 2013 13:28:06 +0000 http://bloggeek.me/?p=3470#comment-117069 In my experience over the last 6 months of using WebRTC for video the media seems better mainly through lower latency and jitter offered by peer to peer connections and no intermediate processing or routing.

I actually think the network compensation is better than most other implementations and certainly much better than any of the low to mid tier VC products.

To me though, the biggest breakthrough is the comprehensive NAT traversal that allows the peer to peer set up. If this had been available previously with non-browser soft clients over existing SIP signalling, WebRTC may not seem quite so special now.

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By: Philipp Hancke https://bloggeek.me/webrtc-media-edge/#comment-117068 Mon, 04 Nov 2013 12:29:58 +0000 http://bloggeek.me/?p=3470#comment-117068 I’d note that those engineers day job is to fix their own problems, not providing free support for the media engine. And convincing them that there is a problem can make it necessary to hunt down the bug yourself.

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By: Tsahi Levent-Levi https://bloggeek.me/webrtc-media-edge/#comment-117067 Mon, 04 Nov 2013 12:00:52 +0000 http://bloggeek.me/?p=3470#comment-117067 In reply to Aswath Rao.

Aswath,

You are of course correct. The whole point here is a request to stop evangelizing WebRTC for providing better media quality.

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By: Aswath Rao https://bloggeek.me/webrtc-media-edge/#comment-117066 Mon, 04 Nov 2013 11:58:50 +0000 http://bloggeek.me/?p=3470#comment-117066 Buried under your last bullet, but worthwhile to call it out: Session is initiated by visiting a URL and signaling procedure is downloaded as part of JS associated with that URL, facilitating triangular connection, thereby avoiding interop issues. In my opinion this will be considered more imp benefit of WebRTC.

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