Comments on: HELLO 2. Is Hardware Gear Finally Taking WebRTC Seriously?

By: Tsahi Levent-Levi

Tsahi Levent-Levi — Fri, 28 Dec 2018 08:32:23 +0000

In reply to Gytis. Gytis, Somehow, I don't see Apple interested enough in this market to enable it in the foreseeable future.

By: Gytis

Gytis — Fri, 28 Dec 2018 07:26:24 +0000

Tsahi,
thanks for great overview and your insights.
How do you see Apple in this context? I guess they need to come up with some version of AppleTV equipped with camera in order FaceTime would become relevant in room based communication? HomePod could serve as a superior speakerphone 🙂 Just not sure if Apple consider this use case big enough for consumer market.
On the other hand I have tried using iPhone mirrored to the big screen through the AppleTV and it works quite well, you just need to position you iPhone appropriately.

By: Alex Cohn

Alex Cohn — Sat, 15 Dec 2018 20:33:39 +0000

In reply to Tsahi Levent-Levi. Play Store is a minor problem when Google Services are not available. Quite a few apps rely on GMS for running, even if one sideloads them.

By: Tsahi Levent-Levi

Tsahi Levent-Levi — Tue, 11 Dec 2018 13:21:37 +0000

In reply to Damien. To some extent it is.

By: Damien

Damien — Tue, 11 Dec 2018 13:18:46 +0000

This looks like a bit like the Dolby Conference Phone (https://www.dolby.com/us/en/professional/products/dolby-conference-phone.html) that is based on Chrominum and can be integrated by UCaaS provider by developing app on it.

By: Tsahi Levent-Levi

Tsahi Levent-Levi — Thu, 29 Nov 2018 10:35:46 +0000

In reply to Rob.

Rob,

You will need to ask them that.
In the case of B2B, it might not be a limiting factor, simply because you can sideload apps via other stores, or direct APK files – or have Solaborate create their own marketplace of business apps for the meeting room. It isn’t as extensive as having the Google Play store, but not sure it matters that much.

By: Rob

Rob — Thu, 29 Nov 2018 09:39:31 +0000

Is the Hello 2 actually GMS certififed and legally allowed to have the Playstore or would they potentially be prosecuted out of existance by Google ?
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/03/27/google-confirms-blocking-google-apps-uncertified-android-devices-heres-deal/
https://www.android.com/certified/

By: Philipp Hancke

Philipp Hancke — Wed, 28 Nov 2018 19:05:21 +0000

In reply to saghul. the colibri bits are nonstandard so proprietary is still correct.

By: Tsahi Levent-Levi

Tsahi Levent-Levi — Wed, 28 Nov 2018 18:29:55 +0000

In reply to Michael Graves.

Not sure I share your view.
Zoom succeeded without having a room system to begin with.
While all the industry cared about was how good their audio is, but forgot how damn hard it is to actually join a meeting, Zoom just ignored it and created something that is super simple to start using.

To me, an Android based device, done right, acting as a video room system is way more powerful than any existing room system device which no one really knows how to operate in the enterprise…

By: Michael Graves

Michael Graves — Wed, 28 Nov 2018 18:23:20 +0000

Grumble, grumble, grumble….four beam-forming microphones…grumble, grumble. Same as the first generation device. Same as every similar device from any brand you care to mention.

The audio experience has not substantially improved in years. The audio experience defines the experience of the meeting. Bad video is bothersome, but bad audio stops the meeting dead.

Browser-based audio handling has not helped. Chrome audio performance is not exactly stellar, most especially where doubletalk is concerned. Witness, we’re just now starting to see AEC3 rolled out in Chrome.