Comments on: What is ORTC: A WebRTC Competitor, WebRTC 2.0 or WebRTC 1.1? https://bloggeek.me/ortc-webrtc/ The leading authority on WebRTC Sat, 02 Jul 2022 15:13:51 +0000 hourly 1 By: Tsahi Levent-Levi https://bloggeek.me/ortc-webrtc/#comment-117643 Thu, 14 Apr 2016 08:03:27 +0000 http://bloggeek.me/?p=8899#comment-117643 In reply to Alain R. Mady.

Alain,

I guess you didn’t see the latest news. Microsoft have decided to embrace WebRTC and actively add WebRTC 1.0 support to Edge.

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By: Alain R. Mady https://bloggeek.me/ortc-webrtc/#comment-117642 Wed, 13 Apr 2016 21:46:56 +0000 http://bloggeek.me/?p=8899#comment-117642 I assume the cold battle between Google WebRTC and Microsoft oRTC will be for some months or years to come, it’s just giving me more white hairs than I already have…

Google invested in WebRTC with thousands of codes and billions of dollars injected in the chrome browser, followed by Firefox and Opera… Then Microsoft came intruding with Abject-RTC ah pardon Object.

Will we have 2 APIs to deal with in real time communication ?

We keep developing the WebRTC-based applications and not to worry about oRTC.

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By: Tsahi Levent-Levi https://bloggeek.me/ortc-webrtc/#comment-117640 Sat, 15 Aug 2015 11:21:03 +0000 http://bloggeek.me/?p=8899#comment-117640 In reply to Sojharo.

Sojharo,

The better question is when WebRTC 1.0 will be released. Currently, best case is end of this year the spec gets completed, and the actual standard released sometime in the first half of 2016.

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By: Sojharo https://bloggeek.me/ortc-webrtc/#comment-117639 Sat, 15 Aug 2015 10:54:15 +0000 http://bloggeek.me/?p=8899#comment-117639 Hi,

When do you think WebRTC 1.1 will be released? Is Microsoft Edge going to support it?

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By: Ted Venema https://bloggeek.me/ortc-webrtc/#comment-117638 Fri, 05 Sep 2014 16:45:52 +0000 http://bloggeek.me/?p=8899#comment-117638 In reply to Dean Bubley (@disruptivedean).

Dean is absolutely correct. Frozen Mountain already provides an SDK API for true portability that uses Google’s implementation for Chrome, FireFox and Opera, provides an ActiveX (for now) for IE until ORTC comes out in which case it will use that, as well as support for Safari. Additionally, there have been many requests for WebRTC without the Web – the ability to have native applications send “wire comparable” WebRTC requests so Frozen Mountain provides native Android, iOS, .NET, Java and Xamarin support. We are assuming this battle will go on for some time so the only way to achieve portability will be another API. Maybe sad in some ways, but the big guys are driven by what makes business for them, not acceptance of standards.

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By: Erik https://bloggeek.me/ortc-webrtc/#comment-117637 Fri, 05 Sep 2014 15:29:21 +0000 http://bloggeek.me/?p=8899#comment-117637 In reply to Tsahi Levent-Levi.

From my recollection, the WebRTC 2.0 reference was used loosely to describe ORTC to those who were not familiar with the W3C ORTC work before an actual designation on the ORTC API was attributed.

The 1.1 designation came from the W3C ORTC CG back in April in a CG meeting: http://youtu.be/hVlfP-OYsQc?t=8m47s. In an effort to not create confusion we took a 1.1 designation instead of 1.0 for the initial API, considering the current WebRTC spec would be 1.0. I think it was Peter Thatcher from Google that proposed it, Justin seconded it, there was no opposition. From this point forward we referred to ORTC as 1.1

Since the goal here is to unify these 2 specs, the translation manifested itself as such: ORTC 1.1 = WebRTC 1.1

Hope this clears things up a bit.

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By: Tsahi Levent-Levi https://bloggeek.me/ortc-webrtc/#comment-117636 Fri, 05 Sep 2014 13:40:38 +0000 http://bloggeek.me/?p=8899#comment-117636 In reply to Dean Bubley (@disruptivedean).

Dean,

You are of course correct. The more complexity and ambiguity, the better the WebRTC API Platform vendors gain from it.

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By: Tsahi Levent-Levi https://bloggeek.me/ortc-webrtc/#comment-117635 Fri, 05 Sep 2014 13:40:04 +0000 http://bloggeek.me/?p=8899#comment-117635 In reply to Erik.

Erik,

To make things clear – you should have nothing but pride for what you are doing. As I stated, being in your position, I’d do the same 🙂

As for naming, it is important simply because the idea is to have more adoption for WebRTC, and having an additional name to explain is a hassle. Since WebRTC is all about reduction of barrier and friction (see my latest post) – then this is an issue.

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By: Tsahi Levent-Levi https://bloggeek.me/ortc-webrtc/#comment-117634 Fri, 05 Sep 2014 13:38:28 +0000 http://bloggeek.me/?p=8899#comment-117634 In reply to bshock.

Having a brittle proof of concept or demo is just fine in my book.

It took Google many months to stabilize their WebRTC implementation and I am sure there’s still much to be improved.

Microsoft are working in a different version release cycles than Google. They don’t throw a new version to the market every 6 weeks – rather a year or two. So it makes sense to see them as a slower player. I am sure that once they get to implement and launch ORTC/WebRTC officially in their browser, it will be a lot better than what you can find from them at the moment in this domain.

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By: Tsahi Levent-Levi https://bloggeek.me/ortc-webrtc/#comment-117633 Fri, 05 Sep 2014 13:36:10 +0000 http://bloggeek.me/?p=8899#comment-117633 In reply to Ted Venema.

Ted,

Only time will tell. I have less of a bad impression of Microsoft; but I can easily see your point.

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