Comments on: Does VP8 Have a Future in WebRTC? https://bloggeek.me/vp8-future-in-webrtc/ The leading authority on WebRTC Sun, 09 Feb 2020 08:41:12 +0000 hourly 1 By: John https://bloggeek.me/vp8-future-in-webrtc/#comment-117168 Sun, 29 Dec 2013 03:32:04 +0000 http://bloggeek.me/?p=3423#comment-117168 Apologies for butting in on a fascinating technical debate. As an economist I am intrigued by the conditions that enable adoption and development of new ideas. As the website http://webrtcapac.com/ will tell you I am involved in running two events on WebRTC in HK and SG in January. Can you recommend any “neutral” speaker from my region who could introduce this debate in fairly layman terms?

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By: Tsahi Levent-Levi https://bloggeek.me/vp8-future-in-webrtc/#comment-117167 Mon, 23 Dec 2013 18:52:54 +0000 http://bloggeek.me/?p=3423#comment-117167 In reply to Paul E. Jones.

Not necessarily.

We now have Opus, another free codec (with its own IPR issues).

And there’s Daala, with the soul attempt of being totally free. And VP9 – where the company in question wants to make it free. It isn’t the same people and their respective companies have different business models.

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By: Paul E. Jones https://bloggeek.me/vp8-future-in-webrtc/#comment-117166 Mon, 23 Dec 2013 18:47:51 +0000 http://bloggeek.me/?p=3423#comment-117166 In reply to Tsahi Levent-Levi.

I understand your point, but the companies that will work on any of these free codecs are the same ones that contribute to H.264 and H.265. If they wanted, they could make H.265 royalty free. I think everyone would agree that’s good for the industry. However, too many companies, for whatever reason, have always been protective of IPR on both voice and video coding.

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By: Tsahi Levent-Levi https://bloggeek.me/vp8-future-in-webrtc/#comment-117165 Mon, 23 Dec 2013 18:33:01 +0000 http://bloggeek.me/?p=3423#comment-117165 In reply to Paul E. Jones.

Paul,

Two things here. The first one, a two axis diagram can never have the complexity of real world in it, so yes, it is missing pieces of reality.

The second one is more important – I care more about what VP8 stands for than nuances of who still holds patents to it and can threaten the buiding ecosystem. At the end of the day, VPx puts us as an industry on a track towards free codecs instead of royalty bearing ones – and that’s a good thing, assuming it can come to fruition.

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By: Paul E. Jones https://bloggeek.me/vp8-future-in-webrtc/#comment-117164 Mon, 23 Dec 2013 17:26:27 +0000 http://bloggeek.me/?p=3423#comment-117164 The chart looks good, but the claim that VP8 is free is not quite right. It also has patents covering it and could be subjected to even higher royalties than H.264. Worse, as patent holder could even kill your product.

If Google wants to claim it is free, they should indemnify users against patent claims. They won’t, though, because they know there is a huge risk.

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