Comments on: What’s the Role of WebAssembly in WebRTC? https://bloggeek.me/webassembly-in-webrtc/ The leading authority on WebRTC Fri, 17 Jan 2020 17:34:17 +0000 hourly 1 By: Matias Lopez https://bloggeek.me/webassembly-in-webrtc/#comment-119641 Tue, 02 Jul 2019 01:14:35 +0000 https://bloggeek.me/?p=12786#comment-119641 We are working for took some very known videoconference brand, that they don’t like WebRTC… to WebRTC 😉

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By: Tsahi Levent-Levi https://bloggeek.me/webassembly-in-webrtc/#comment-119331 Tue, 15 Jan 2019 10:13:36 +0000 https://bloggeek.me/?p=12786#comment-119331 In reply to Gerard Webb.

Gerard,

I am somewhat less optimistic as to the timeframe all these things will happen. It will probably be a lot longer (at least for QUIC in WebRTC, implemented in browsers, and with infrastructure and vendors using it).

Look how long WebRTC 1.0 is taking. I was promised it will get done in 2015.

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By: Gerard Webb https://bloggeek.me/webassembly-in-webrtc/#comment-119330 Tue, 15 Jan 2019 10:10:32 +0000 https://bloggeek.me/?p=12786#comment-119330 This is a highly important area. I am using this tech for slot of the use cases mentioned.

But the premise is wrong imho.

QuicRTC is coming. 12 months away..

Http3 is getting ratified and it’s QUIC. 8 months away.

So everything is moving to UDP and always encrypted.

So you have dependency on the IS kernel for networking. Take it anywhere. Playing field kevelled..

Telcos will no longer be able to do QOS / traffic shaping or “network / contention management :)”. Flattening the playing field ….

The 5G system policy architects are using quic for backbone Comms.

AV1 is marching forward.
Its is going to level things – bye bye royalty rent seeking.

I do agree that WASM helps. It’s a huge innovation.

But when you combine wasm and webrtc then you don’t need servers ! So huge level playing field because no capex running costs.

Webrtc NV is interesting and am doing some of those.
I think there are a ton more use cases here that will become apparent too as people get into this and be brave and defy the dogma we all fall into over time.

P2P might really really take off

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By: Tsahi Levent-Levi https://bloggeek.me/webassembly-in-webrtc/#comment-119328 Mon, 14 Jan 2019 22:01:15 +0000 https://bloggeek.me/?p=12786#comment-119328 In reply to Sean DuBois.

Sean, I guess you should read this: https://blog.usejournal.com/open-source-business-models-considered-harmful-2e697256b1e3

I tend to agree with it.

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By: Sean DuBois https://bloggeek.me/webassembly-in-webrtc/#comment-119327 Mon, 14 Jan 2019 21:55:07 +0000 https://bloggeek.me/?p=12786#comment-119327 100% Open Source is not a myth. GNU (Free Software with apologies to rms….) and lots of other great projects are doing it.

Chromium and libwebrtc are at best viewable source. If you work at Google you get the fast path to make whatever change you want, if you don’t it is a much steeper slope. There are also plenty of crbugs that are marked private, and other issues you are going to run into.

It is a shame, because it gets the label ‘Open Source’ while other projects that are actually community owned get ignored.

@Philipp Hancke who knows what hasn’t been caught yet.

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By: Tsahi Levent-Levi https://bloggeek.me/webassembly-in-webrtc/#comment-119325 Mon, 14 Jan 2019 12:36:33 +0000 https://bloggeek.me/?p=12786#comment-119325 In reply to Philipp Hancke.

100% open source is a myth.

Google are allowed to add their own secret sauce as others do. I am guessing the issue starts when Chrome itself is getting “private”/”undocumented” interfaces that only Google can use.

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By: Philipp Hancke https://bloggeek.me/webassembly-in-webrtc/#comment-119324 Mon, 14 Jan 2019 11:34:25 +0000 https://bloggeek.me/?p=12786#comment-119324 The level playing field was greatly helped by Chromium forcing 100%. In order to get something for Hangouts, the code had to be opensource (mostly; once Emil Ivov caught folks because of certain simulcast log lines which were not present in webrtc.org) and others could use the features. Simulcast is probably the main example for this.

Looks like the 100% opensource rule is gone though, I’ve seen webassembly files delivered with Hangouts Meet which build inside/against WebRTC without being included.

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